LIVE MASTERCLASS · CATHOLIC MIRACLES
The Object Test
Does the evidence oblige you to become Catholic? I grant every miracle for the sake of argument. Then I show what they actually confirm, and why declining Rome isn’t a mistake.
Saturday, November 14 · 9–11 a.m. Pacific · Live on Zoom · $47
Save My SeatYou’ve Heard the Argument
Maybe you’ve heard it put bluntly. Joe Schmid says the Catholic miracle evidence is “manifestly better” than the evidence for the resurrection, and that “the total objective evidence rationally obliges Catholicism.” Ethan Muse calls declining Rome “a heart issue, not a head issue.”
Maybe you’ve looked at Fatima, Lourdes or Lanciano, and the evidence is better than you expected. And the usual Protestant answers don’t hold up. Calling it fraud doesn’t survive the documents. Calling it demonic proves too much.
There’s a better answer, and you don’t have to deny a single miracle to give it.
Does the Evidence Oblige You to Become Catholic?
One live session, one question, and every miracle granted for the sake of argument. Enrollment closes Thursday, November 12.
Save My SeatThree Key Things You'll Learn
What was the sign declared to confirm?
A sign confirms what it was declared to confirm. You’ll learn four questions that test any miracle, and why God confirming a message isn’t God commissioning a legate.
Fatima, Lourdes, Zeitoun, Padre Pio, Etc.
We’ll read the 1917 Fatima record in the original Portuguese, take on Lourdes as the hardest case, and look at the control case Ethan Muse himself accepts.
Why you can decline Rome with a clear conscience
Why Easter passes the same test the modern miracles fail, and why declining Rome on this evidence isn’t irrational, immoral or “a heart issue.”
Everything We'll Cover
- The dilemma. Why believing the resurrection doesn’t commit you to Rome, even if the Catholic evidence is better.
- When a claim binds you. The two ways, and the four questions that test them on any miracle.
- How signs confirm. Four cases from Scripture, explicit and implicit, Easter, and Garrigou-Lagrange on what a miracle can confirm.
- Why a confirmed doctrine isn’t a credentialed church.
- Fatima, from the 1917 documents. What the sign was declared to confirm, and when the Rome-related content first appears in writing.
- Lourdes, the hardest case. Including what I concede.
- Zeitoun and Padre Pio. The control case Muse accepts, and the case that convinced Joe Schmid.
- The strongest counter. Why a pattern of Catholic miracles still doesn’t oblige anyone to accept Rome.
- The “heart issue” charge. Why declining Rome on this evidence isn’t suppressing the truth.
- What would prove me wrong. On the record.
Built On Catholic Sources
Vatican I, Dei Verbum, the Catechism, Cardinal Ratzinger’s commentary on Fatima, the Vatican’s 2024 norms on apparitions, the Church’s critical edition of the Fatima documents, and Garrigou-Lagrange.
What’s Included
- The live masterclass, 90 minutes of teaching
- Live Q&A, 30 minutes
- The workbook, with every case worked through, a Four Questions card, practice cases, a self-quiz and four handouts
- Objections and Replies, with Muse, Schmid and McKay in their own words
- The recording, with access for one year
Who It's For
- Protestants who feel the pull of the Catholic miracle case
- Pastors and teachers whose people are asking about Fatima or Lourdes
- Catholics who want to hear the best reply to the obligation claim
It isn’t for anyone looking for talking points to win online argument.
About Your Instructor
Christopher Cloos, PhD
I hold a PhD in philosophy from UC Santa Barbara, specializing in epistemology and philosophical theology, and I’ve published in Philosophical Studies, Episteme and Philosophia Christi. I run The Protestant Philosopher on YouTube and The Protestant Review on Substack. I’m a committed Protestant, and I’ve taken the Catholic miracle case as seriously as I can.
Founding Cohort Offer
$47
It goes up after this cohort.
Enrollment closes Thursday, November 12, at 11:59 p.m. Pacific.
Refund policy. If The Object Test isn’t what you hoped, email me within 7 days of the live session (by Saturday, November 21) and I’ll refund you in full. No questions asked.
